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Submitted by Simon on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 8:30am

Funny, isn't it: whenever she speaks directly, and isn't filtered through the MSM editing room, she seems entirely lucid and coherent. And yet, whenever what she says is edited by the MSM, she appears to be firing on something short of the full complement of cylinders. However can we explain this peculiar discrepancy... Oh, wait...

Via Powerline.

It could be that ...

Or it could be that she does well when giving prepared remarks, and less well in interviews. It is, after all, easier for some people to speak coherently when reading from a teleprompter. You can't explain away the Couric interview with editing, dude -- that was just incoherence.

Which isn't to say that she is not intelligent, of course -- plenty of smart people get flustered when being publicly grilled -- but just that there are better explanations than The Big Giant Editing Conspiracy.

A fair point, to be sure,

A fair point, to be sure, given that the other fella has been criticized (rightly or wrongly) as being good at reading from a teleprompter but not good without one. I haven't watched it for a while, but I'm pretty sure that it would be tough to exclude the possibility of creative editing. Which isn't to say that she hasn't given wrong answers or even bad answers in settings where editing and filtering can't be blamed - she has. But There is a wide discrepancy between how she has performed in unfiltered settings and how she's appeared to perform in recorded MSM segments, and I don't think it really amounts to a conspiracy theory to conclude that some legerdemain might be at play.

But the two major msm

But the two major msm interviews she gave were pretty much unfiltered. Couric didn't chop up the answers make Palin look ridiculous, those were actually the answers that Palin gave. I see no reason to doubt that Palin is as uninformed as she appeared to be on those two interviews. Of course, she could go on Meet the Press or something, or give a press conference, to show that she isn't the unqualified candidate that she has been portrayed as, but she hasn't done that.

Palin was being filtered by

Palin was being filtered by the McCain campaign. She's not much of a talking points speaker, but on her own she can nail it. That's what I've seen, anyway.

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Right, she is good at

Right, she is good at delivering a speech (she is trained as a tv journalist after all). The problem is when she has to answer basic questions about the issues. Do you really think the ability to read a speech is evidence that she is qualified to be vp? Are people actually arguing that she is a substantive candidate but the msm is making her look dumb? Well, a couple of press conferences could clear that up i guess.

George Clooney could also deliver a darn fine Republican speech if he had the script, but that wouldn't lead me to believe he should be a Republican VP candidate.

What do you mean by substantive candidate?

I have no doubt that she understands the same issues that you do, or I do, or Tully does, or Rafique does--or anybody that's criticizing her does-- having followed politics for a long time. As someone in politics, she needed to follow at least as much as mattered to her own job, she needed to read newspapers to see what was being said about her. When the New York Times wrote an article about Alaska, I'm sure she read it. As Governor with Alaska, she had to deal with the consequences of some US Supreme Court decisions, because the Supreme Court can decide what state governments can do and what they can't. Heck, she also had to deal with Alaskan Supreme Court decisions--like the ruling they handed down that required gay partners of state employees be given benefits.

As for foreign policy matters, she visited Kuwait to talk to commanders there and to the troops of the Alaskan national guard that were sent there. It also is true that Russia routinely flies airplanes just miles from US airspace, and US planes are forced to intercept them. It doesn't make her a foreign affairs expert--it shows she had contact with some foreign affairs issues, instead of being sheltered in small town politics and being completely clueless. I'm sure she read New York Times articles on Russia and Putin also.

I don't know everything Sarah Palin knows, and its very possible she has a lot more to learn, but I have a feeling its a lot more than people give her credit for.

I also think the hostile approach that some interviewers have directed towards her actually hurts our ability to tell what she knows and what she's capable of. When John Gibson acts condescending, or Katey Couric goes all-out to try to prove herself to be a real journalist, Palin feels like she's on the spot and has to be selectively careful in answering questions. When the interviewer is more relaxed and conversational--and not oppositional--like for instance, Carl Cameron on FOX, or even that interviewer from CNN--she's more easy in giving answers and doesn't get flummoxed as much.

What I would like to see, is a good interviewer ask questions of Sarah Palin, where-- by making her comfortable--they would draw out for the public what she actually knows and doesn't know--without making her afraid of giving a bad answer. I would like to see that, because I personally would like to see what Sarah Palin knows. And I think the public should want that also, instead of assuming what she knows, or pretending she can't know much because she didn't answer what newspapers she reads. I think the public deserves to know what Sarah Palin really understands about issues, and reporters haven't been doing their job getting us to that end. They think their job is be schoolteachers giving her pop quizzes.

possibly

Indeed! It's quite possible that Sarah Palin's grasp of and thinking about detailed issues is greater than what we have seen. And I agree that she's received hostile treatment at time from gotcha journalists. Still it's Sara Palin's responsibility to transmit her depth of understanding to the people. That's not the media's job. They are not supposed to be producing a theatrical production called Sara Palin. I would argue that pop quizzes actually ARE an appropriate to some extent, presuming the teachers are probing knowledge that it's genuinely legitimate to expect to be supplied. (FWIW, I'll cheerfully agree that such an approach ought to applied in a similar fashion to all pols being vetted).

Palin has shown herself to sometimes or even often lack poise and the ability to think quickly and coherently when under pressure. That is HER bad. The lack has been clearly demonstrated even if you believe the pressure applied was greater than warranted. These are qualities that are highly desirable in someone who could hold our nation's highest office. The Presidency is surely a pressure cooker and constantly requires public poise and quick processing.

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I have often said, and oftener think, that this world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. -Horace Walpole

McCain campaign is too produced in general

There's an old expression that the perfect should not be the enemy of the good. I think our political campaigns put abnormal pressures on candidates that they will not have to deal with in office--and its a mistake to think that just because someone is bad at campaigning and bad with the press, they would be bad in office being a states-person and policy maker.

Its not reasonable to think that the press should be kingmakers. Judging a candidate on how well they perform in the press is a kind of reflective test, because it assumes it means something how well Palin responds to a Katey Couric interview. It doesn't mean anything, necessarily.

I think the McCain campaign has been too manufactured and produced, not just for Palin, but for McCain also, as you can see in the latest blog post here about their campaign feeling they need to combat the media by 'controlling the narrative'.

Everyone in politics needs to give more credit to voters, and the idea that they can see through all the BS. Then, just consistently and strongly, and honestly, make your case to the voters. At least Obama sounds like he's being honest, even if he isn't.

Good points, but for better

Good points, but for better or worse a President's performance for the press is a crucial part of the job. The press is the filter through which people form their view of the world, and someone who can't use that filter probably isn't going to be a very effective leader. Now, by the time a candidate gets through the primaries he/she almost necessarily has demonstrated they know how to deal with the press. That for me nails the problem with the Palin pick-- she may have great political potential, but she wasn't prepared for the press onslaught.

How exactly would you have

How exactly would you have suggested Palin "prepare" for what you now appear to concede was an "onslaught" - a vicious slow-motion character assassination?

I'm not sure that I agree that the President's performance with the Press is relevant any more. I will be very disappointed with McCain if he ever talks to a reporter again after he gets into office - indeed, if he even lets them in the building. The technology is there to talk directly to the people. YouTube; talk radio; blogs; the web generally; CSPAN; you name it. The press can go jump in a damn river so far as I'm concerned - with a few honorable exceptions, their behavior this season, and particularly since 8/29 is a permanent stain.

Wow. That is kind of scary.

Wow. That is kind of scary. So, you prefer politicians to be locked in a bubble with nobody (ie, the press) to challenge them? One of the fundamental aspects of a free democratic society is a free press. In order for the press to function, it needs access to leaders. I'm sorry that you think the Palin train wreck is the fault of the press, but suggesting a Putin-like relationship with the press is pretty unbelievable.

Oh, you prepare for a press onslaught by learning how to answer questions in complete sentences, even softball questions like what newspapers do you read.

I agree with you about the Press onslaught

I agree with you about the Press onslaught issue Justin.

I think part of her problem has been a general distrust in how the media is going to deal with her. In the Couric interview she said she felt that the question about "what she read" was insulting and dismissive about her and Alaskans. I personally think she misunderstood the question and became defensive in return (Palin's bad). The question was a fair one I thought.

On the other hand though, just yesterday, Drew Griffin of CNN, using a quote from the National Review, asked Palin this:

"GRIFFIN: Governor, you've been mocked in the press, the press has been pretty hard on you, the Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you as well. The National Review had a story saying that, you know, I can't tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above."

Griffin changed the quote from this:

Watching press coverage of the Republican candidate for vice president, it's sometimes hard to decide whether Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, backward, or ? or, well, all of the above.

The question was an obvious change from the original meaning of the writers and I can think of only one reason. I also have to believe that when Palin was first asked to be VP, she was counseled to beware of reporters even more than she had in Alaska. It's obvious she took it to heart.

Hold the press accountable also

Yea,

I agree. Part of the job of a politician is to deal with the public discussion, which happens in the press.

But what happens when a candidates that are able to pass the muster of the press are the least good at making policy? I'm sure you've heard the point of view before that the smartest people stay out of politics.

At some point, we have to hold the press accountable, and not the politicians.

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